{"id":1304,"date":"2010-03-18T02:08:50","date_gmt":"2010-03-18T00:08:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/?p=1304"},"modified":"2016-02-20T23:34:35","modified_gmt":"2016-02-20T21:34:35","slug":"drzavna-matura-na-forumu-i-facebooku-skandal-afera-ili-zabava-za-mase","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/drzavna-matura-na-forumu-i-facebooku-skandal-afera-ili-zabava-za-mase\/","title":{"rendered":"Dr\u017eavna matura na forumu i Facebooku &#8211; skandal, afera ili zabava za mase!?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ovaj blog post se slobodno mo\u017ee <a title=\"Kreiranje i odr\u017eavanje online reputacije putem foruma (1.dio)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/kreiranje-i-odrzavanje-online-reputacije-putem-foruma-1-dio\/\" target=\"_self\">nadovezati<\/a> <a title=\"Kako ukloniti podatke iz Google rezultata pretra\u017eivanja?\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/kako-ukloniti-podatke-iz-google-rezultata-pretrazivanja\/\" target=\"_self\">na<\/a> <a title=\"Dvosmjerna komunikacija (ORM)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/dvosmjerna-komunikacija-orm\/\" target=\"_self\">ve\u0107<\/a> <a title=\"Tra\u017eilice (ORM)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/trazilice-orm\/\" target=\"_self\">ranije<\/a> <a title=\"Uklanjanje sadr\u017eaja (ORM)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/uklanjanje-sadrzaja-orm\/\" target=\"_self\">objavljene<\/a> jer iz primjera se mo\u017ee vidjeti zbog \u010dega je do\u0161lo do medijske hajke vezane uz dr\u017eavnu maturu, tko \u0107e snositi posljedice vlastite nepa\u017enje i sl.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Razlog pisanja ovog blog posta je prikaz <strong>do \u010dega mo\u017ee dovesti nekoliko javno objavljenih re\u010denica teksta<\/strong>. Mo\u017eete vi stajati iza napisanog, ali ako niste sigurni da pri\u010du mo\u017eete izgurati do kraja nemojte niti zapo\u010deti (ne)planirane aktivnosti, ako niste spremni mediji \u0107e vas razvla\u010diti koliko ste visoki i \u0161iroki. Tako\u0111er ovog blog posta ne bi bilo da nisam, u pauzi od \u010ditanja knjige Marijana Kari\u0107a &#8216;Mikroekonomika&#8217;, primjetio <a title=\"\u017dao mi cure zbog gnjava\u017ee koja ju \u010deka\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ssuljic\/status\/10640257339\" target=\"_blank\">tweet \u0160ime \u0160ulji\u0107a<\/a> (<a title=\"Tweet\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/TweetSimeSuljic.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">*<\/a>) te dobio ideju za pisanje kronolo\u0161kog osvrta bez previ\u0161e teoretiziranja uz konkretan primjer. Ipak, iz primjera se najbolje u\u010di \u2013 jer sumnjam da ovo \u017eelite probati u praksi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Sve je po\u010delo 16.03.2010. u 23.50h objavom <a title=\"Sutra \u0107e biti sljede\u0107a dijela:\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forum.hr\/showpost.php?p=25597261&amp;postcount=7044\" target=\"_blank\">ovog posta<\/a> (<a title=\"imamdojavu1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/ImamDojavu1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">*<\/a>) iz \u010dega se po izboru nadimka u startu mo\u017ee sru\u0161iti tvrdnja kako je rije\u010d o sre\u0107i kako se navodi u postu <a title=\"Drugim rje\u010dima, \u010cISTA SRE\u0106A JE DA SE DANAS OVO POKLOPILO.\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forum.hr\/showpost.php?p=25607201&amp;postcount=7233\" target=\"_blank\">&#8216;Drugim rje\u010dima, \u010cISTA SRE\u0106A JE DA SE DANAS OVO POKLOPILO.<\/a>&#8216; (<a title=\"imamdojavu3\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/ImamDojavu3.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">*<\/a>), jer netko tko ide na sre\u0107u ne\u0107e registrirati nadimak &#8216;<a title=\"imamdojavu\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forum.hr\/member.php?u=309475\" target=\"_blank\">imamdojavu<\/a>&#8216; koji je nedvosmislen i vrlo znakovit. A da ne govorim o izjavi &#8216;<a title=\"Ja ovo objavljujem isklju\u010divo zato \u0161to \u017eelim da svi imaju istu \u0161ansu.\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forum.hr\/showpost.php?p=25597702&amp;postcount=7060\" target=\"_blank\">Ja ovo objavljujem isklju\u010divo zato \u0161to \u017eelim da svi imaju istu \u0161ansu.<\/a>&#8216; (<a title=\"imamdojavu2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/ImamDojavu2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">*<\/a>) koja za sobom povla\u010di i odgovornost odnosno upravo ta objava poni\u0161tava mogu\u0107nost tj. pravo na jednaku \u0161ansu \u0161to je primjetio jedan foruma\u0161 objavom posta &#8216;<em>ne ku\u017eim \u0161ta bi to zna\u010dilo &#8220;neka svi imaju jednaku \u0161ansu&#8221;. pa imali bi je da nitko nista nije provalio!!!<\/em>&#8216;.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">17.03.2010. u 19:00h po\u010delo je zanimanje medija za slu\u010daj objave spornog sadr\u017eaja na forumu. Medijsku hajku zapo\u010deo je portal <em>24sata.hr<\/em> objavom \u010dlanka pod naslovom &#8216;<a title=\"U\u010denici su znali da \u0107e esej pisati iz \u201eZlo\u010dina i kazne\u201c\" href=\"https:\/\/www.24sata.hr\/news\/ucenici-su-znali-da-ce-esej-pisati-iz-zlocina-i-kazne\/164287\/\" target=\"_blank\">U\u010denici su znali da \u0107e esej pisati iz \u201eZlo\u010dina i kazne\u201c<\/a>&#8216;. Ve\u0107 u 20:24h <em>Index.hr<\/em> sve je popratio \u010dlankom pod naslovom &#8216;<a title=\"Skandal s dr\u017eavnom maturom: \u201cImam dojavu. Tema je Dostojevski\u201d\" href=\"https:\/\/www.index.hr\/vijesti\/clanak\/skandal-s-drzavnom-maturom-imam-dojavu-tema-je-dostojevski\/481345.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">Skandal s dr\u017eavnom maturom: &#8220;Imam dojavu. Tema je Dostojevski&#8221;<\/a>&#8216; , nakon \u010dega se po prvi put nakon medijske objave javlja i &#8216;imamdojavu&#8217; kratkim postom &#8216;<a title=\"\u0160ala mala.\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forum.hr\/showpost.php?p=25612048&amp;postcount=7404\" target=\"_blank\">\u0160ala mala.<\/a>&#8216; (<a title=\"imamdojavu4\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/ImamDojavu4.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">*<\/a>) iako je ve\u0107 postalo jasno da mjesta \u0161ali nema. \u010cinjenica kako nije rije\u010d o \u0161ali postala je jasna ve\u0107 nakon \u010detiri minute kada isti foruma\u0161 tj. foruma\u0161ica objavljuje post &#8216;<a title=\"Ljudi, to je \u010dista slu\u010dajnost,...\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forum.hr\/showpost.php?p=25612133&amp;postcount=7414\" target=\"_blank\">&#8230;Ljudi, to je \u010dista slu\u010dajnost,&#8230;<\/a>&#8216;(<a title=\"imamdojavu5\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/ImamDojavu5.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">*<\/a>) i tu po\u010dinje borba doti\u010dne foruma\u0161ice koja se poku\u0161ava opravdati i ukazati na \u010dinjenicu kako stvarno nije znala \u0161to \u0107e biti jedna od tema ove dr\u017eavne mature. Deset minuta kasnije slijedi <a title=\"Ne bojim se.\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forum.hr\/showpost.php?p=25612371&amp;postcount=7432\" target=\"_blank\">jo\u0161 jedan post<\/a> (<a title=\"imamdojavu6\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/ImamDojavu6.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">*<\/a>) od ukupno, za sada, njih sedam. Ipak, foruma\u0161ica je svjesna u\u010dinjenog te izjavljuje &#8216;<a title=\"No ako bude nekome slu\u017ebeno treblo odgovarati na pitanja, to \u0107u bez problema napraviti.\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forum.hr\/showpost.php?p=25612498&amp;postcount=7442\" target=\"_blank\">&#8230; ako bude nekome slu\u017ebeno treblo odgovarati na pitanja, to \u0107u bez problema napraviti&#8230;<\/a>&#8216; (<a title=\"imamdojavu7\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/ImamDojavu7.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">*<\/a>), iako se vidi da je sadr\u017eaj posta poprili\u010dno ironi\u010dan. Tada na forumu jedan foruma\u0161 daje do znanja kako je i portal <em>Ve\u010dernji.hr<\/em> objavio \u010dlanak pod nazivom &#8216;<a title=\"Maturanti danima prije ispita znali da \u0107e esej pisati iz Zlo\u010dina i kazne\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vecernji.hr\/vijesti\/maturanti-danima-prije-ispita-znali-da-ce-esej-pisati-zlocina-kazne-clanak-112371\" target=\"_blank\">Maturanti danima prije ispita znali da \u0107e esej pisati iz Zlo\u010dina i kazne&#8217;<\/a> i kao da to nije bilo dovoljno sti\u017ee \u010dlanak s portala <em>Jutarnji.hr<\/em> pod nazivom &#8216;<a title=\"U\u010denici na Facebooku provalili da \u0107e tema biti Dostojevski\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jutarnji.hr\/ucenici-na-facebooku-provalili-da-ce-tema-biti-dostojevski\/640033\/\" target=\"_blank\">U\u010denici na Facebooku provalili da \u0107e tema biti Dostojevski<\/a>&#8216; iz \u010dega se vidi kolika je brzina dana\u0161njih komunikacijskih tj. informacijskih kanala. <em>Slobodna Dalmacija<\/em> objavila je ne\u0161to druga\u010diji \u010dlanak nego \u0161to su to u\u010dinili drugi portali pod naslovom &#8216;<a title=\"ZNALI SU I PRIJE DR\u017dAVNE MATURE &quot;Provaljen&quot; Dostojevski, iz engleskog tema Facebook?\" href=\"https:\/\/www.slobodnadalmacija.hr\/Hrvatska\/tabid\/66\/articleType\/ArticleView\/articleId\/95765\/Default.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Provaljen&#8221; Dostojevski, iz engleskog tema Facebook?<\/a>&#8216;.<br \/>\n\u0160to se foruma ti\u010de pri\u010da se tu polako sti\u0161ava. Mo\u017ee biti da su se foruma\u0161i umorili ili su news portali jednostavno prebacili pa\u017enju na sadr\u017eaje upravo objavljenih \u010dlanaka.<br \/>\n&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">A sada pro\u010ditajte obavijest u kojoj se navodi &#8216;<a title=\"Ono \u0161to ipak nikome nije poznato,...\" href=\"https:\/\/dokumenti.ncvvo.hr\/SS\/2010-03-16\/Obavijest_ravnatelj.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Ono \u0161to ipak nikome nije poznato jest dio, odnosno, ulomak (ili problem) koji \u0107e biti kori\u0161ten, kao i smjernice za pisanje eseja prema kojima se esej i vrjednuje.<\/a>&#8216; (Zagreb,16 o\u017eujka 2010.), i poku\u0161ajte do\u0107i do zaklju\u010dka. I, \u0161to mislite?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kronologija doga\u0111aja koju sam gore napisao slu\u017ei samo kao <strong>primjer \u0161to mediji mogu napraviti s informacijom koju objavite<\/strong> bilo da je informacija stvarno istinito saznanje, slu\u010dajno pogo\u0111ena ili tek \u0161ala.<br \/>\nMislim da sam uspio do\u010darati svu silu (to\u010dnih, neto\u010dnih, provjerenih, neprovjerenih) informacija kojima smo bili obasipani.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a title=\"Kreiranje i odr\u017eavanje online reputacije putem foruma (1.dio)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/kreiranje-i-odrzavanje-online-reputacije-putem-foruma-1-dio\/\" target=\"_self\">Forum<\/a> nam daje mogu\u0107nost da se izrazimo, zabavimo, ,&#8230; ali isto tako ono \u0161to na njemu objavljujemo mo\u017ee se okrenuti protiv nas uslijed vlastitog neznanja. Ipak, neznanje nije izgovor kada je rije\u010d o odgovornosti.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u0160to \u0107u ja dobiti objavom posta na forumu, a \u0161to \u0107e dobiti oni (foruma\u0161i, mediji,&#8230;)?<\/strong> &#8211; pitanje koje si doti\u010dna foruma\u0161ica nije postavila a trebala je. Nakon toga ide procjena rizika koji uvijek postoji i na kraju realna procjena vlastitih mogu\u0107nosti da primjereno reagiramo u slu\u010daju najbolje i najgore reakcije svih zainteresiranih strana.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ono \u0161to niste spremni javno pisati pod imenom i prezimenom odnosno pod punom kaznenom i prekr\u0161ajnom odgovorno\u0161\u0107u nemojte pisati niti anonimno (iako je anonimnost na Internetu upitna) jer snosit \u0107ete odgovornost prije ili kasnije. U redu, mogu to biti nekakve interne \u0161ale ali onda neka takvima i ostanu jer javnost sudi po onome \u0161to joj se prezentira i nudi a ne prema stvarnim \u010dinjenicama, dokazima, spoznajama ili vrijednostima.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Zna\u010di, ovdje sada nije bitno tko ima pravo, \u0161to je od svega toga istina, tko stoji iza nadimka &#8216;imamdojavu&#8217;, koje \u0107e i ho\u0107e li institucije reagirati nego na\u010din kako se sve prezentira prema javnosti i kako javnost sudi o svim sudionicima procesa vezanih uz dr\u017eavnu maturu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kakvo je va\u0161e mi\u0161ljenje? Ima li mjesta sumnjama u ozbiljne propuste pri organizaciji dr\u017eavne mature ili je najve\u0107i propust zapravo nepa\u017enja pri objavi spornog sadr\u017eaja? Budite slobodni izjasniti se u komentarima.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ovaj blog post se slobodno mo\u017ee nadovezati na ve\u0107 ranije objavljene jer iz primjera se mo\u017ee vidjeti zbog \u010dega je do\u0161lo do medijske hajke vezane uz dr\u017eavnu maturu, tko \u0107e snositi posljedice vlastite nepa\u017enje i sl. Razlog pisanja ovog blog posta je prikaz do \u010dega mo\u017ee dovesti nekoliko javno objavljenih re\u010denica teksta. Mo\u017eete vi stajati &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/drzavna-matura-na-forumu-i-facebooku-skandal-afera-ili-zabava-za-mase\/\" class=\"more-link\">Nastavi \u010ditati <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Dr\u017eavna matura na forumu i Facebooku &#8211; skandal, afera ili zabava za mase!?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3895,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[57,134,137,136,135],"class_list":["post-1304","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-razno","tag-afera","tag-drzavna-matura","tag-forumhr","tag-imamdojavu","tag-skandal"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Dr\u017eavna matura na forumu i Facebooku - skandal, afera ili zabava za mase!? - Tomislav Stankovi\u0107<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomislavstankovic.com\/blog\/drzavna-matura-na-forumu-i-facebooku-skandal-afera-ili-zabava-za-mase\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"hr_HR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Dr\u017eavna matura na forumu i Facebooku - skandal, afera ili zabava za mase!? - Tomislav Stankovi\u0107\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Ovaj blog post se slobodno mo\u017ee nadovezati na ve\u0107 ranije objavljene jer iz primjera se mo\u017ee vidjeti zbog \u010dega je do\u0161lo do medijske hajke vezane uz dr\u017eavnu maturu, tko \u0107e snositi posljedice vlastite nepa\u017enje i sl. 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